![]() People in their 30-40s with a family, etc certainly WANT to sit down for 3-6 hours and just dungeon crawl, that just isn’t the reality that it was in their 20s. And before you devolve into the obvious, basic tropes of why, don’t head down that road before you admit the fact that every time they introduce a “mega dungeon”, it’s barely played at all … until it’s then broken up into smaller pieces. That’s not exactly a ringing endorsement. So while you cherry-pick the fact that “it was popular in Vanilla”, you dismiss the larger reality that, after a short time, ALL THOSE PEOPLE LEFT. Luckily for me, things mostly changed.īut the game is still a MASSIVE* time sink. And I complained the entire time that it was too long and I didn’t want to have to do it. I’m not really interested in what people did the first time in a game that was brand new. And vice versa.Īt this point, your arguments make it impossible to have a civil and nuanced discussion about this since you’ve resorted to lying here, even as a raider you should know better, so i bid you good day, because by your own design, we have nothing else to discuss here.Īnd yet, people played all the long dungeons in Classic. I know for an objective fact, what i find easy to me, isn’t easy for anybody. I’ve been a flex/normal raider once back in MoP and WoD and i know for a fact that having all the time in the world doesn’t mean jack dannels if you’re having trouble on one or two things. ![]() And it’s not like i don’t have any experience in raiding. I don’t know why you’re lying to me about that when you should know better here, as well lying about me lying. You absolutely know that simply having more time doesn’t mean it’s automatically easier. You keep on using the word “easier”, i don’t think that word means what you think it means. If you’re going to chastise me on blatant misunderstanding, it would help if you understand what i was going for there considering i had easier bolded out to make it easier to understand. Saying that making sure you can always have the right CDs up when you need them isn’t easier is a straight lie or a blatant misunderstanding of wow game mechanics that have existed for almost 20 years.įirst off, that meme was simply talking about you overusing (as well misusing) the word “easier”. All those games have active and friendly player bases and the games are very fun and immersive. I would suggest Lord of the Rings Online, Elder Scrolls Online, FF14 or Guild Wars 2. If you’re looking for a fun MMO that plays more like a RPG. I don’t think WoW can be saved from the current design mistakes. These people basically turned the game into a seasonal lobby game similar to a lot of the looter shooters that are available. I put a lot of the blame on Ion and the Diable 3 developers that were brought onto the team at the end of WoD. ![]() Blizzard is losing it’s previous core player base because they have been catering way too much to competitive player types the last 3 expansions. Look how the developers are starting to panic now with DF by adding in and revisiting non-competitive content and systems. Now, even normal dungeons are infected with this GO GO GO mentality. They really didn’t care about it being easy, because they were looking for laid back experiences. ![]() I can’t tell you how many players just loved farming easy dungeons for badges and random bgs for gear. I’ve been playing WoW since beta and I can’t think of a single system that has brought more toxicity and alienated more players away from the game than M+.Ī lot of M+ defenders don’t realize that many of WoW’s core player base were average skilled gamers that loved WoW because it was casual. The game absolutely funnels you towards M+. They just couldn’t stand being pushed into these high stress dungeons. A lot of players left the game because of M+ dungeons. I personally think just based on my readings outside this forum and personal experiences with a lot of my old guildmates. They’re the feedback that Blizzard listens to and gauges their player metrics from now. Which is competitive players that love the sweaty design of the end game. These forums are basically inhabited by what is left of the remaining player base of WoW. They will never ever understand your argument and where you’re coming from. You’re arguing with 3-4 of the most notorious M+ defenders on these forums.
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